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Jenn (she/they) and Chavonne (she/her) are a HAES®-aligned dietitian and therapist duo who are passionate about dismantling the intersectional barriers to embodiment. In this show, they interview professionals and those with lived experience alike to learn how they are affecting radical change and how we can all make this world a safer place for those living in larger bodies and in marginalized spaces. EFTROU is currently recording season 4 with publishing starting February 2024 (every month after that on the first Thursdays of each month!) through November 2024.
Episodes
Thursday Sep 08, 2022
Creating Community and Fat Acceptance with Dr. Joy Cox - EFTROU: S2, Ep9
Thursday Sep 08, 2022
Thursday Sep 08, 2022
Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 2, Episode 9: Dr. Joy Cox
Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Dr. Joy Cox (she/her) about her embodiment journey.
Dr. Joy Cox is a body justice advocate using her skill set in research and leadership to foster social change through the promotion of fat acceptance and diversity and inclusion. With 39 years living as a fat, Black cisgendered woman and 8+ years of professional experience under her belt, Dr. Cox draws on her own experiences and skillset to amplify the voices of those most marginalized in society, bringing attention to matters of intersectionality addressing race, body size, accessibility, and "health."
Joy has been featured on several podcasts and media productions such as Food Psych with Christy Harrison, Nalgona Positivity Pride with Gloria Lucas, Fat Women of Color with Ivy Felicia, and the New York Times. Her book, Fat Girls in Black Bodies: Creating Communities of Our Own was released in 2020 and has received outstanding reviews and been featured in advocacy work near and far. Dr. Cox is the voice of an overcomer, looking to propel others into a place of freedom designed by their desires.
Website links:
Jabbie - www.getjabbie.com
Twitter - @DrJoyCox
Content Warning: discussion of privilege, discussion of diet culture, discussion of ableism, discussion of healthism
Trigger Warnings:
55:48: Joy discusses legislation that is harmful to the LGBTQIA+ community
The captions for this episode can be found at
https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-2/season-2-episode-9-joy-cox/#captions/
A few highlights:
4:10: Joy shares her understanding of embodiment and her own embodiment journey
8:19: Joy discusses how the pandemic affected her embodiment practices
19:10: Joy shares embodiment practices for those adultified as children
33:09: Joy discusses her understanding of “the rest of us” and how she is a part of that, as well as her privileges
44:31: Joy shares the connection between community and embodiment
49:50: Joy discusses how structural change and community impact embodiment
1:02:43: Joy shares how listeners can make a difference based on this conversation as well as where to be found and what’s next for her
Links from this episode:
Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons), Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License
Please follow us on social media:
Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com
Twitter: @embodimentus
Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus
Thursday Aug 25, 2022
Systemic Racism and Dehumanizing Diet Culture with Shelby Gordon - EFTROU: S2, Ep8
Thursday Aug 25, 2022
Thursday Aug 25, 2022
Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 2, Episode 8: Shelby Gordon
August 25, 2022
Shelby is a retired world-champion, professional dieter who broke the chains of restriction, excessive exercise, and body hatred by embracing Body Trust®. She now works with helping professionals and organizations to ignite and elevate their awareness of the intersection of fusion of systemic racism and dehumanizing diet culture. She is an awesome daughter, prolific social media disrupter and future puppy owner.
The captions for this episode can be found at:
https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-2/season-2-episode-8-shelby-gordon/#captions/
Content Warning: discussion of privilege, discussion of diet culture and behaviors, mention of mental health struggles, discussion of co opting of BIPOC practices, discussion of healthism
Trigger Warnings:
11:57, 13:55, and 59:20: Shelby uses the word “tribe” in a way that is offensive
11:59: Shelby discusses a suicide
21:50: Shelby discusses the murder of George Floyd
30:01: Shelby discusses Lindo Bacon’s work before more awareness of the harm that they have caused in their work came to light in the first two weeks of March 2022 here, here, here, and here among others (with updates here and here) (this episode was recorded in early March 2022)
42:50 and 55:16: Shelby uses the word “crazy” in a way that is ableist
A few highlights:
3:55 Shelby shares her understanding of embodiment and her own embodiment journey
19:41: Shelby discusses how the pandemic affected her embodiment practices
32:17: Shelby shares how her social media work affects her own embodiment
40:03: Shelby discusses how humor can be helpful with practicing embodiment
44:19: Shelby discusses the lack of nuance of embodiment in social media
53:16: Shelby shares her understanding of “the rest of us” and how she is a part of that, as well as her privileges
1:12:06: Shelby discusses how listeners can make a difference based on this conversation
1:26:04: Shelby shares where to be found and what’s next for her
Links from this episode:
Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons), Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License
Episode Editing:
A special shout out to Christine Anatone at Anatone Creative, who was our editor for this episode. THANK YOU CHRIS!!!
Please follow us on social media:
Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com
Twitter: @embodimentus
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Thursday Aug 11, 2022
Bibliotherapy (Reading) as Embodiment with Jennifer Radke - EFTROU: S2, Ep7
Thursday Aug 11, 2022
Thursday Aug 11, 2022
Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 2, Episode 7: Jennifer Radke
Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Jenn Radke (she/her) about her embodiment journey.
Jennifer Radke is the host of the podcast, Fat Girl Book Club, and a podcasting coach. Her body image journey started with sneaking cookie dough out of the deep freezer at the age of eight, moved through a bunch of different diets, at least three goal weight celebrations, two bodybuilding competitions and culminated in an eating disorder. When she finally figured out that she would never diet her way to self-love, she started reading. As she read, so many things began to fall into place and now her focus is on using the podcast to help others see that their body is something to cherished and loved.
Social Media:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fatgirlbookclubpod/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100063705813357
Fat Girl Book Club can be found on your podcast listening app of choice Podcasting Website: https://www.fearlesspodcasting.co
The captions for this episode can be found at:
https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-2/season-2-episode-7-jenn-radke/#captions/
Content Warning: discussion of privilege, discussion of diet culture, discussion of eating disorders and disordered eating, mention of mental health struggles, discussion of ableism, discussion of co opting of BIPOC practices, discussion of healthism, discussion of weight loss surgery
Trigger Warnings:
5:06: Jenn R. discusses her eating disorder history
9:46: Jenn R. uses the word “crazy” in a way that may be ableist
10:21: Jenn R. discusses Lindo Bacon’s work before more awareness of the harm that they have caused in their work came to light in the first two weeks of March 2022 here, here, here, and here among others (with updates here and here) (this episode was recorded in early March 2022)
25:43: Jenn R. discusses Virgie Tovar and her work (this author is now known to have caused harm to superfat and infinifat people, so there is no link to her work)
33:15: Jenn R. shares her experience with fitness magazines and body comparison
37:37: Jenn R. discusses Lindo Bacon’s work before more awareness of the harm that they have caused (see note above)
37:57: Jenn R. discusses Caroline Dooner and her work (this author is now known to have caused harm due to her anti-vaxx stance and overall racist rhetoric, so there is no link to their work)
46:00: Jenn J. discusses Marilyn Manson and their book (this author is now known to have caused harm to intimate partners, so there is no link to their work)
51:31: Chavonne discusses Lindo Bacon’s work before more awareness of the harm that they have caused (see note above)
52:52: Chavonne discusses Anita Johnston and her work (this author’s book is now known to have caused harm due to its weight stigma, so there is no link to their work)
1:03:10: Jenn R. discusses weight loss surgery
1:05:08: Jenn J. discusses the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics’ Evidence Analysis Library
1:14:03: Jenn J. discusses Lindo Bacon’s work before more awareness of the harm that they have caused (see note above)
A few highlights:
4:31: Jenn R. shares her understanding of embodiment and her own embodiment journey
16:13: Jenn R. discusses their understanding of “the rest of us” and how she is a part of that, as well as her privileges
31:14 Jenn R. shares how reading or bibliotherapy can help those moving toward embodiment
57:14: Jenn R. discusses how hosting a podcast about, by, and for fat people has enhanced her connection with embodiment
1:03:51 : Jenn R. discusses where HAES® and IE fall short
1:20:23: Jenn R. shares how listeners can make a difference based on this conversation
1:25:21: Jenn R. discusses where to be found and what’s next for her
Links from this episode:
FGBC Episode with Amanda Murphy
FGBC Episode with Maggie Landes, MD
FGBC Episode with Shadoe Ball 1
FGBC Episode with Shadoe Ball 2
Health At Every Size® (HAES®) (especially the FAQ for the origin of the HAES movement)
Killer Fat (TW: full title has the “O word”)
Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons), Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License
Please follow us on social media:
Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com
Twitter: @embodimentus
Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus
Thursday Jul 28, 2022
Grief, Liberation, and Embodiment with Michelle Phillips - EFTROU: S2, Ep6
Thursday Jul 28, 2022
Thursday Jul 28, 2022
Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 2, Episode 6: Michelle Phillips
Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Michelle Phillips (they/them/we) about their embodiment journey.
Michelle Phillips, The Liberation Strategist, is a mental health and spiritual care practitioner with over 15 years of experience in transformational and holistic care. They have been on a journey of walking with individuals toward a deeper understanding of themselves on every level of wellness-spiritual, somatic, mental, and emotional. Michelle is the founder of Liberation Strategies, an agent of liberatory change which provides liberation coaching for individuals, nonprofits, and organizations. Compassionate and grounded in helping people realize their own power to cultivate change, Michelle creates space for clients to transmute their grief toward joy and liberation.
Michelle is an intuitive mental health clinician, coach, consultant, and facilitator. A native of Decatur, Georgia, a current resident, and a provisionally licensed clinician in Washington State, they hold a Master's in Clinical Mental Health Counseling from Seattle University in Seattle, WA. In addition, Michelle is a 2020 National Board of Certified Counselors Minority Fellow for Clinical Mental Health Counseling.
Michelle is a parent, a partner, and a step-parent to two Cairn Terriers, Adler and Dempsey. Michelle loves being outside in forests, gardens, canyon, mountains, and at the water's edge when not working. They love learning more about herbs and plant relatives while hiking and walking in gardens. They also love singing, a deep and soothing balm for the soul.
Michelle, The Liberation Strategist
Content Warning: discussion of privilege, discussion of diet culture, mention of mental health struggles, discussion of ableism, discussion of co opting of BIPOC practices
The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-2/season-2-episode-6-michelle-phillips/#captions/
A few highlights:
5:07: Michelle shares their understanding of embodiment and their own embodiment journey
16:49: Michelle discusses how the pandemic has affected their devotion to embodiment, what lights them up up on a regular basis to feel embodied and how to make this accessible for everyone
35:15: Michelle shares how one’s sense of embodiment impacts their own liberation and efforts toward collective liberation
54:57: Michelle discusses their understanding of “the rest of us” and how they are a part of that, as well as their privileges
1:04:33: Michelle shares what liberation coaching is and embodiment practices for folks moving through grief and toward liberation
1:25:23: Michelle discusses how listeners can make a difference based on this conversation
1:28:30: Michelle discusses where to be found and what’s next for them
Links from this episode:
Healing Ourselves To Heal Others: A Virtual Conference
Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons), Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License
Please follow us on social media:
Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com
Twitter: @embodimentus
Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus
Thursday Jun 30, 2022
Relational Healing and Nourishment with Chelsea Levy - EFTROU: S2, Ep5
Thursday Jun 30, 2022
Thursday Jun 30, 2022
Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 2, Episode 5: Chelsea Levy
Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Chelsea Levy (she/her) about her embodiment journey. This is part 2, the encore, of our first-ever two-part episode!
Chelsea Levy (she/her) is a Certified Intuitive Eating Counselor and registered dietitian nutritionist. She earned her Master of Science from Hunter College and completed her dietetic internship at the City of New York (CUNY) School of Public Health. Chelsea utilizes Health at Every Size® (HAES®) principles in her approach to nutrition therapy. She works with individuals struggling with disordered eating and eating disorders, with a focus on weight-inclusive medical nutrition therapy, body image healing, and Intuitive Eating. Chelsea has interest in treating individuals with diabetes, and polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS) along with folks, who are in larger-bodies, and those who are transgender or non-binary. She believes it is vital to provide care relevant to an individual’s culture, ethnicity, and overall identities. Chelsea hosts a collaborative space for the exploration of food and body healing through creativity and compassion.
Instagram: @ChelseaLevyNutrition
Content Warning: discussion of privilege, discussion of diet culture, mention of mental health struggles, discussion of dissociation
Trigger Warnings: None for this episode
The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-2/season-2-episode-5-chelsea-levy-encore/#captions/
A few highlights:
6:54: Chelsea discusses her understanding of “the rest of us”
11:04: Chelsea shares embodiment practices do you recommend for folks experiencing various stages of eating disorder recovery
41:36: Chelsea shares how she help clients tune into the nuance of their lived experiences
52:46: Chelsea discusses her take on IE, HAES® and AND
1:06:24: Chelsea shares her online eating support on IG
1:15:27: Chelsea discusses ways in which conversations about embodiment miss the mark by letting systems and those in power off the hook
1:24:49: Chelsea shares how listeners can make a difference based on this conversation
1:30:47: Chelsea discusses how to be found and what’s next for her
Links from this episode:
ASDAH’s response to Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics’ Evidence Analysis Library (1)
ASDAH’s response to Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics’ Evidence Analysis Library (2)
BIPOC Eating Disorder Conference
Food Insecurity and Eating Disorders
Health At Every Size® (HAES®) (especially the FAQ for the origin of the HAES® movement)
Stress and Digestion (2): (TW/CW for the second page and fatphobic suggestions)
Fat Positive and Fat Liberation Reading Recommendations Beyond HAES® lists from Nikki Haggett and Vinny Welsby
Here is some info about what went on since March of 2022 regarding HAES® and the book’s author: here, here, here, and here among others (with updates to some of those here and here).
Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons), Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License
Please follow us on social media:
Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com
Twitter: @embodimentus
Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus
Thursday Jun 16, 2022
Nourishment and Nuance with Chelsea Levy - EFTROU: S2, Ep4
Thursday Jun 16, 2022
Thursday Jun 16, 2022
Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 2, Episode 4: Chelsea Levy
Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Chelsea Levy (she/her) about her embodiment journey. This is part 1 of our first-ever two-part episode!
Chelsea Levy (she/her) is a Certified Intuitive Eating Counselor and registered dietitian nutritionist. She earned her Master of Science from Hunter College and completed her dietetic internship at the City of New York (CUNY) School of Public Health. Chelsea utilizes Health at Every Size® (HAES®) principles in her approach to nutrition therapy. She works with individuals struggling with disordered eating and eating disorders, with a focus on weight-inclusive medical nutrition therapy, body image healing, and Intuitive Eating. Chelsea has interest in treating individuals with diabetes, and polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS) along with folks, who are in larger-bodies, and those who are transgender or non-binary. She believes it is vital to provide care relevant to an individual’s culture, ethnicity, and overall identities. Chelsea hosts a collaborative space for the exploration of food and body healing through creativity and compassion.
Instagram: @ChelseaLevyNutrition
Content Warning: discussion of privilege, discussion of diet culture, mention of mental health struggles, discussion of dissociation
Trigger Warnings:
58:19: A discussion of fatphobia that can exist when discussing the fatness spectrum
The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-2/season-2-episode-4-chelsea-levy/#captions/
A few highlights:
4:32: Chelsea shares her understanding of embodiment and her own embodiment journey
44:08: Chelsea discusses her understanding of “the rest of us” and how she is a part of that, as well as her privileges
1:33:08: Chelsea shares embodiment practices for folks experiencing various stages of eating disorder recovery
Links from this episode:
Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons), Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License
Please follow us on social media:
Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com
Twitter: @embodimentus
Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus
Thursday Jun 02, 2022
Pleasure, Sexuality, and Embodiment with Molly Adler - EFTROU: S2, Ep3
Thursday Jun 02, 2022
Thursday Jun 02, 2022
Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 2, Episode 3: Molly Adler
Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Molly Adler(she/her) about her embodiment journey.
Molly is a Certified Sex Therapist with the American Association of Sexuality Educators, Counselors and Therapists (AASECT). Her practice Sex Therapy New Mexico is based in Albuquerque, New Mexico on Tiwa land. She works with a lot of clients who are LGBTQ2S+, BIPOC, anti-racist, activists, polyamorous, and/or kink identified. Her approach is compassionate, grounded, pleasure-centered, light-hearted & social justice oriented. She enjoys the micro-level therapeutic work, as well as working towards structural change by offering training for healthcare providers and institutions who want to be more inclusive of sexual and gender diversity in their work. Previously she co-founded and co-directed Self Serve Toys, New Mexico’s first and only sex-positive, health- and education-focused adult shop and resource center for its first eight years.
Content Warning: discussion of privilege, discussion of diet culture, mention of mental health struggles, mention of dissociation, mention of rape culture
Trigger Warnings:
33:12: Molly discusses sexual violence and abuse
1:09:59: Chavonne uses a term that is harmful to some of those experiencing gender expansiveness
The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-2/season-2-episode-3-molly-adler/#captions/
A few highlights:
4:55: Molly shares her understanding of embodiment and her own embodiment journey
15:37: Molly discusses how the pandemic has affected her devotion to embodiment, what lights her up up on a regular basis to feel embodied how to make this accessible for everyone
35:46: Molly shares how one’s sense of embodiment impacts sexual pleasure and vice-a-versa
49:30: Molly discusses her understanding of “the rest of us” and how she is a part of that, as well as her privileges
1:09:38: Molly discusses gender expansiveness and embodiment practices for those experiencing it
1:21:35: Molly shares her definition of pleasure liberation
1:29:10: Molly discusses Self Serve and Aliso Roots Community Collective and why physical spaces are important in fostering liberation
1:42:12: Molly shares how listeners can make a difference based on this conversation
1:47:37: Molly discusses where to be found and what’s next for her
Links from this episode:
Fight-Flight-Freeze-Fawn Response
Internal Family Systems Therapy
Leah Lakshmi Piepzna-Samarasinha
Also, two extra resources Molly wanted to pass along!
Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons), Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License
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Thursday May 19, 2022
Fat Liberation and Photography with Lindley Ashline - EFTROU: S2, Ep2
Thursday May 19, 2022
Thursday May 19, 2022
Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 2, Episode 2: Lindley Ashline
Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Lindley Ashline (she/her) about her embodiment journey.
Lindley Ashline creates photographs that celebrate the unique beauty of bodies that fall outside conventional "beauty" standards. She fights weight stigma by giving fat people a safe place to explore how their bodies look on camera and by increasing the representation of fat bodies in photography, advertising, fine art and the world at large.
Lindley is also the creator of Body Liberation Stock (body-positive stock images for commercial use) and the Body Love Shop (a curated resource for body-friendly products and artwork). Find Lindley's work and get her free weekly Body Liberation Guide at http://bit.ly/bodyliberationguide.
Website: http://www.bodyliberationphotos.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bodyliberationwithlindley/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bodyliberationphotos/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/lindleyashline
Content Warning: discussion of privilege, discussion of diet culture, mention of mental health struggles, mention of trauma and complex trauma, discussion of healthism, mention of unintentional weight loss, discussion of internalized fatphobia
Trigger Warnings:
58:45: Jenn discusses her internalized fatphobic messages
1:02:48: Lindley discusses harmful stereotypes about fat people
The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-2/season-2-episode-2-lindley-ashline/#captions/
A few highlights:
4:13: Lindley shares her understanding of embodiment and her own embodiment journey
37:37: Lindley discusses how the pandemic has affected her devotion to embodiment, what lights her up up on a regular basis to feel embodied how to make this accessible for everyone
1:26:15: Lindley discusses her understanding of “the rest of us” and how she is a part of that, as well as her privileges
1:29:44: Lindley discusses fat liberation, body liberation, and photography
1:46:22: Lindley shares how listeners can make a difference based on this conversation
1:54:14: Lindley shares where to be found and what’s next for her
Links from this episode:
Lindley’s Definitions of Liberation
Lindley’s Medium Article about Photoshopping
Here is some info about what went on since March of 2022 regarding HAES® and the book’s author, including direct harm of our interviewee: here, here, here, and here among others (with updates to some of those here and here).
Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons), Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License
Please follow us on social media:
Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com
Twitter: @embodimentus
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Thursday May 05, 2022
Season 2 Intro Episode: The Interviewers Become the Interviewees - EFTROU: S2, Ep1
Thursday May 05, 2022
Thursday May 05, 2022
Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 2, Episode 1: Season 2 Intro
Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) discuss season 2! They answer some of the questions they asked their incredible interviewees during the upcoming season.
Content Warning: discussion of privilege, discussion of diet culture, discussion of racism, discussion of internalized ableism and fatphobia, mention of mental health struggles
Trigger Warnings:
51:43: Discussion about Lindo Bacon’s harm. Here is some info about what has been going on for the last two months: here, here, here, and here among others (with updates to some of those here and here). Unfortunately, further updates center the one who harmed and do not center the most marginalized, so they are not included here within these show notes.
1:21:13: Chavonne mentioned Virgie Tovar’s book. Due to us just learning about past harm caused by Virgie Tovar to Black and superfat folks, we do not link to her book.
The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-2/season-2-episode-1-season-intro/#captions
A few highlights:
1:54: Chavonne and Jenn share what stood out for them most from Season 1
10:05: Jenn and Chavonne discuss embodiment as a pleasure practice
30:52: Chavonne and Jenn discuss how to tune into the nuance of embodiment through many life experiences
43:12: Jenn and Chavonne share embodiment practices for folks moving through grief and toward liberation
51:40: Chavonne and Jenn share their takes on IE and HAES in light of problematic events that took place in 2021
1:08:55: Jenn and Chavonne share how they intend to center and send more compensation to those in marginalized spaces
1:17:47 Chavonne and Jenn discuss bibliotherapy and reading about body liberation
Links from this episode:
Health At Every Size® (HAES®) (especially the FAQ for the origin of the HAES movement)
Medium Article re: Paying a Tribal Land Rent
Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons), Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License
Please follow us on social media:
Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com
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Twitter: @embodimentus
Thursday Mar 17, 2022
Season 1 Wrap-Up: Reflections and Looking Forward to Season 2 - EFTROU: S1, Ep10
Thursday Mar 17, 2022
Thursday Mar 17, 2022
Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 1, Episode 10: Season 1 Wrap-Up
Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) review season 1–all they learned and unlearned and plans for season 2!
Content Warning: discussion of privilege, discussion of diet culture, discussion of classism, discussion of ableism, mention of mental health struggles, mention of trauma and complex trauma, mention of healthism
Trigger Warnings:
1:25:13: Discussion about Lindo Bacon’s work before more awareness of the harm that they have caused in their work came to light in the first two weeks of March 2022 here, here, here, and here among others (with updates here and here) (this episode was recorded in October of 2021)
The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-1/season-1-episode-10-wrap-up/#captions
A few highlights:
2:40: Chavonne and Jenn share their own embodiment practices and devotions
16:01: Jenn and Chavonne discuss how the pandemic has affected their senses of embodiment and when they are feeling most embodied
42:37: Chavonne and Jenn discuss they support someone’s goal of managing their health without veering into healthism as well as how they navigate the biases and stigmas inherent in their education
1:10:30: Jenn and Chavonne discuss where HAES® and IE fall short
1:27:34: Chavonne and Jenn share how listeners can make a difference based on this conversation
1:34:35: Jenn and Chavonne share where to be found and what’s next for them
Links from this episode:
Fat Positive and Fat Liberation Reading Recommendations Beyond HAES® lists from Nikki Haggett and Vinny Welsby
Health At Every Size® (HAES®) (especially the FAQ for the origin of the HAES movement)
What We Don’t Talk About When We Talk About Fat
Also: Information about the ABA and its harmful ways
- A thread on the issues with ABA and what the founder has said (CW: dehumanizing of autistic people)
- A whole website of links
- An amazing (heart breaking and shocking lots of TWs) podcast episode on the horrible founder (who also founded conversion therapy)
Music: “Wheel of Karma” by Jason Shaw
Please follow us on social media:
Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com
Twitter: @embodimentus
Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus